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Originally Posted by Ian08 View Post
Sometimes it is necessary, because not all navigation links has precise name that let screen reader users know what kind of navigation it is. Add a <h3></h3> is clearer and more convenient for them to understand it.

For example, like this site. When the screen reader starts to read "Live Feed, Top Users, Tag Cloud, Tools, Jobs", how does screen reader users know what's this?
There is no association between those links, so they are obviously a bunch of random links (which all have meaning of course, but don't have a "group" as such). Visually, thats just a bunch of random links too (are you getting the connection? Browsers and screenreaders are the same in this regard).

Originally Posted by Liam View Post
If a navigation is not clear to a screen reader, then it won't be particulary clearer to normal viewing, meaning it's a bad design (thinking in terms of usability and intuitiveness)
Exactly Liam.

If someone with a screenreader needs a title, then people using a standard browser need a title too. If the menu is intuitive enough to figure out for a visual person, then someone with a screenreader will pick it up too.

Therefore, if the menu needs a title to explain it, then it should be visible across all browsers. There is no need for any hidden titles.