First of ALL, Talkvb.com is in no way close to "TalkFreelance", the only relation they have is the "talk" (GASP). I personally would like to try and keep Talkvb as FAR different from "TalkFreelance" as possible. For obvious reasons. And as far as vbulletin.org.. Talkvb.com has very much a more specific memberbase over vbulletin.org.