OH MY GOD I HATE IE I hate it so much

Originally Posted by rkquest Wrong. Without IE, everyone will be using Firefox and the world will be a better place. It's not like people are surfing the web because there's IE and if there's no IE they wont surf.

No he's right. Take IE6 out of the equation and coding becomes a lot easier, which means more people can do it, which lowers the price (assuming they don't even just try and do it themselves)

Why not use a hack for IE?

Something like
* html #blah {
}

this only targets IE6 and nothing else. Obviously this is not w3c valid but if you put that in a 2nd stylesheet no one has to know

Originally Posted by hijax Something like * html #blah { } Obviously this is not w3c valid

Good? Not really. Valid? Yes.

It may be terrible for some but it's part of the web coding experience for still a lil while. Best to use your time to deal with it and learn from it than to whine about it. As for * html never use it but my pages still display properly in ie6.

Originally Posted by 007c It may be terrible for some but it's part of the web coding experience for still a lil while. Best to use your time to deal with it and learn from it than to whine about it. As for * html never use it but my pages still display properly in ie6.

So when you need to use the PNGfix, hover .htc or anything else that is < IE6 specific, you set it for all browsers rather than target it?

Originally Posted by rochow So when you need to use the PNGfix, hover .htc or anything else that is < IE6 specific, you set it for all browsers rather than target it?

I never use PNGfix, altho unitpng exists, i'd rather use matte when i can imo it's more compatible. Hover htc as you know, you just use a ie conditional for that and slip it inside another css along with other ie specific stuff if needed (seldom tho) no need to * html .

I think you should go ahead and use IE hack for it.

Ya there are tons of IE users. But, FF is so much better, and personally I like Chrome better. I say bubye to IE and make FF default, then let people upgrade from there.

Originally Posted by 007c I never use PNGfix, altho unitpng exists, i'd rather use matte when i can imo it's more compatible. Hover htc as you know, you just use a ie conditional for that and slip it inside another css along with other ie specific stuff if needed (seldom tho) no need to * html .

There are lots of times where you need the alpha transparency.

What is a conditional comment if not just another IE hack?

Usually when I code, I make a whole separate other style sheet just for IE itself. Then if someone is viewing in IE, the normal style sheet... PLUS the IE specific one is called.

Helps keep down the clutter in the main style sheet, and doesn't confuse others regarding other css coding for the main browsers (that are good at reading and handling code). And for PNG, I'll use a PNG "fix" via javascript.

"Correctly handle PNG transparency in Win IE 5.5 & 6.
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