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11-04-2008, 02:09 AM
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11-04-2008, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bradfordp26
Hopefully not Obama.
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With the money I make, X2. I give money to charity, but I don't want Obama's massive tax increases on the upper middle class forcing me to give to the poor (with the government taking their share before redistributing, probably around 90%).
Originally Posted by Andrew R
From what I've done on the electoral map on CNN.com, and watching people on CNN play with it, it will be VERY hard for McCain to win.
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They said it would be almost impossible you Bush to win on both elections, same thing back with Regan. Election politics are easier to decipher when you realize that the media companies all want the Democrats to win and will slant anything their way if at all possible.
It is also worth mentioning that the online crowd tends to be younger people, who normally vote democratic. So online polls will normally be slanted very far to the Democratic side.
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Obama is popular for having a good smile and a young look, but in reality he is the most radical liberal who had a chance at getting into the democrat seat. To make things worse, his economic policies are socialist. Also, he has only served four years in the senate, two of those were campaigning. Think of it this way, he started into politics when Bush took his second office. He would be among the least qualified people to ever take office.
If people actually knew that Obama stands for, he wouldn't have a chance.
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11-04-2008, 03:15 AM
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"It is also worth mentioning that the online crowd tends to be younger people, who normally vote democratic. So online polls will normally be slanted very far to the Democratic side.
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They try to do phone polls or interviews polls, because you can rig an online polls.
And supposedly a percentage of young people don't have telephones.
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11-04-2008, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Xphic
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They try to do phone polls or interviews polls, because you can rig an online polls.
And supposedly a percentage of young people don't have telephones.
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Telephone polls are subject to the area you are doing it in. The area I am in is almost completely Democrat (Chicago).
The point is not that polls can be rigged, it is that they are (and have been for a very long time) slanted to the left to give the Democrats a stonger appearance than they actually have. Remember the last two elections? The polls all showed how Bush didn't stand a chance.
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11-04-2008, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Village Idiot
Telephone polls are subject to the area you are doing it in. The area I am in is almost completely Democrat (Chicago).
The point is not that polls can be rigged, it is that they are (and have been for a very long time) slanted to the left to give the Democrats a stonger appearance than they actually have. Remember the last two elections? The polls all showed how Bush didn't stand a chance.
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Considering more people consider themselves Democrats than Republican, it really isn't a slant.
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11-04-2008, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Xphic
Considering more people consider themselves Democrats than Republican, it really isn't a slant.
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I assume you have come to that conclusion based off of the polls?
Fact of the matter is that the polls have consistently shown a left bias through history, this time around is no different.
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11-04-2008, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Village Idiot
I assume you have came to that conclusion based off of the polls?
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Yep, and new voters that registered, And people I talk too....but hey I am here in ole liberal elite Jersey.
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11-04-2008, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Xphic
Yep, and new voters that registered, And people I talk too....but hey I am here in ole liberal elite Jersey.
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So you admit that your logic is circular when based off the polls? You know the polls aren't slanted because there are more democrats out there, but you arrive at this conclusion due to the fact that the polls point to it...
Also, cities are generally democratic, so basing it off of your area alone is pretty weak. If I based it off of my area alone, it would without a doubt be obama.
edit: Plus, lets not forget that they have historically been slanted. Why would they not be this time? Especially with the media treating Obama as the chosen one.
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11-04-2008, 03:54 AM
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If you want a aggregate of many polls, look at pollster.com or fivethirtyeight.com.
You make over $250,000 a year that you are worried about the 4% tax increase that Obama wants to put back in place?
We need something new. The last 8 years have been nothing but a downward spiral for the United States. The economy is horrible, the war has gone on way to long and the list can go on. McCain isn't the change, he will pick up where Bush left off. His campaign has been filled with fear, lies and an ignorant running mate that was picked not for her expertise or experience, but to have a pretty face to catch attention.
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11-04-2008, 04:01 AM
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I don't have time to get into another political debate. I did write an entire message, but I don't want to debate about it since I will be going to bed soon. No one is chancing opinions this late in the election anyway.
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