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Originally Posted by DJAC

I'm about 140pgs into the Agile book atm and I'm working on adding the check-out feature to my shopping cart. I'd have to say at this stage I'm very curious at learning more about the framework. As you've mentioned, this book does seem to start from a more advanced level.

I'm understanding everything so far, but don't know any of the details about the framework. Pgs 228-598, however, are dedicated to covering the framework, so I'm thinking that's when you really get to know what you're doing. Did you read the entire book Haris?

I've programmed PHP for around 5yrs and I would recommend you learn both PHP and RoR

I've not read the entire book but I stopped because I was completely confused. Do you recommend me starting over again because that could help me but would be time consuming.

Originally Posted by iisbum

If you don't really know how to program in other languages, I'd recommended picking up a good book on just plain Ruby. Knowing the underlying language will help make learning Rails easier. Also the know more about the Object Orientation, and other programming techniques will help you greatly.

If you knew other programming languages you might be able to get by without this.

PHP and Ruby both have their strengths and weaknesses (I build in both). Ruby/Rails is tougher to pickup but once you get over the hump you'll find it makes a lot sense.

The big issue I still have with Rails in the scalability of the applications and the limited hosting options, both of which are improving.

Mubs

I know about MVC framework because it was clearly described in the book and is used by Rails. I don't have any idea on OOP. I've only heard that PHP5 comes with OOP and then never got into researching about it. I guess scalability issue will be non-existing in a few months since lot of hosting companies are starting to support RoR.

I'm looking into this http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_ltp/ but there are many resources available for beginners at www.ruby-lang.org

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

Learn php first, is is without a doubt the industry standard.

Thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by Max Nachamkin

I really think you should go with PHP. All though Ruby on Rails is a "new technology" with a "good future", there are currently more resources for PHP available. They have a great manual on their website (www.php.net), and you can use scripts. It's way more customizable and WAY easier to use in my opinion. Good luck!

But way lengthy.