Originally Posted by dereklapp actually, it's not that IE has rendering issues against the w3 standards, it simply has a bad engine, regardless of who made it.

And why would that be?

Originally Posted by dereklapp try making documents work and parse as real xml applications, IE dies faster than anything no matter what standards you're trying to follow, be them w3 or even microsoft standards.

As real xml applications? Sounds like an opinion based on some kind of predefined way of doing something; which is a standard What is parsing as a real xml application? :P

Originally Posted by dereklapp thus my point: IE's rendering engine can't even follow it's own standards sometimes, so it's not an issue about who's methodolgies are right and who's are wrong, but the engine itself.

Engine works fine for me on a wide range of Internet useage :P Obviously you are just trying to find things it cannot do

Originally Posted by dereklapp w3 vs microsoft is really a completely different topic.

I was under the impression this was purely a discussion on the validity of the W3C standard :P But I'm quite happy with anything...